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gilana ([personal profile] gilana) wrote2007-05-18 12:47 pm
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work on shabbos

I know people are often confused by what I can and can't do on shabbos, and what constitutes "work". I was amused to see the The Straight Dope has just posted an interesting and very readable column on the topic.  (My personal observance does not always follow the Orthodox customs, so please don't tell me "Hey, you're not allowed to do that!" if you see me doing something covered there...)
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[personal profile] dpolicar 2007-05-18 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Can we tell you that if we see you doing something not covered there?
I mean, you know, just for grins?

[identity profile] wellstar.livejournal.com 2007-05-18 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Hah!

[identity profile] chanaleh.livejournal.com 2007-05-18 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! I'm totally putting this link in the email announcements I'm about to send!

[identity profile] eclecticavatar.livejournal.com 2007-05-18 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
This is really interesting; thanks for posting!

[identity profile] doeeyedbunny.livejournal.com 2007-05-18 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
That was a very excellent and thorough answer. What bothers me is the question.

[identity profile] bedfull-o-books.livejournal.com 2007-05-18 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Very interesting. I've been wondering about the specifics of the no work on the Sabbath thing but have been too lame to do my own research.

(Re the injunction against putting out a fire: I am assuming that there are exceptions made for putting out something that should not, in fact, actually be on fire.... Yes. I know. The darndest things catch my eye/brain.)

[identity profile] magid.livejournal.com 2007-05-18 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Putting out house fires, definitely ok. Doing medically necessary things or anything else life saving, always ok.

[identity profile] chaiya.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, I believe I was instructed (by [livejournal.com profile] llennhoff and [livejournal.com profile] malkaesther, Orthodox Jews, during my Orthodox training) that as long as everyone was out of the house, it was supposed to burn down rather than have a Jew put out the fire.

But I could've misheard them. It stuck in my mind as something that was very incongruous with what I thought was reasonable and right observance of my relationship with God. So that's not what I would do, faced with a burning building. But then again, I also decided not to become Orthodox.

[identity profile] magid.livejournal.com 2007-05-20 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
How can one be sure that the house will just burn down without spreading to other houses that may be occupied?

Which is to say, I can understand the other point of view, but I can also see how it would be considered fine to put the fire out.

IANAR and all that, though.

[identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com 2007-05-18 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
aha! i knew the general concept of an eruv but wasn't sure what the purpose was, nor how it was arrived at.

please don't tell me "Hey, you're not allowed to do that!" if you see me doing something covered there...

if someone does that when i'm around, i will happily do the work of bitching them out for you.